{"id":7448,"date":"2017-05-21T20:14:25","date_gmt":"2017-05-21T18:14:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/?p=7448"},"modified":"2019-01-29T13:38:46","modified_gmt":"2019-01-29T11:38:46","slug":"the-art-of-covering-vs-the-art-of-adopting-a-style-a-difficult-art-indeed-flanders-72-vs-hamburg-ramoenes-ends-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/?p=7448","title":{"rendered":"&#8230; the art of covering vs. the art of adopting a style: A difficult art indeed &#8211; Flanders 72 vs. Hamburg Ram\u00f6nes ends 1:0!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It would have been Joey Ramones 66th Birthday this year and the Hamburg Ram\u00f6nes do have a habit of throwing a birthday bash for Joey. This time round it included Flanders 72 from Brasil, a Ramonescore band leaning towards a Green Day sound rather, and it was set upstairs at the Hafenklang.<\/p>\n<p>For me it was a wee bit strange as i only knew two people in the audience and they had the same experience &#8211; it was a strange audience, to a certain extend due to many of the regulars being over in Berlin to see Razors supporting Cock Sparrer. Still, it was a strange feeling to be in an audience that seemed to be made up in majority of friends and family of the band (with an average age even above mine).<\/p>\n<p>Flanders 72 kicked off and from the first second they proved to be experienced musicians &#8211; right from the start great sound, tight and on the point playing and moving to the music radiating joy. According to me mate Frosch they did the same on a not sold out MS Hedi (a small ship hosting bands for tours through the Hamburg Harbour), a trip &amp; show the day before i did let go in favour of the record release party by the Spitfire Stevens.<\/p>\n \n<!-- Start container 1 --><div id=\"wppa-modal-container-1\" class=\"wppa-modal-container\" style=\"position:relative;z-index:100000;\" data-wppa=\"yes\"><\/div><div id=\"wppa-container-wrapper-1\" class=\"alignnone wppa-container-wrapper \" style=\"width:100%;clear:both;padding:0;position:relative;\"><div id=\"wppa-container-1\" style=\"width:100%;\" class=\"wppa-container wppa-container-1 wppa-rev-9110011 wppa-prevrev-9109005 wppa-theme-9.1.10.011 wppa-api-9.1.10.011\"><svg id=\"wppa-ajax-spin-1\" class=\"wppa-ajax-spin uil-default\" width=\"120px\" height=\"120px\" viewBox=\"0 0 100 100\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid\" stroke=\"\" style=\"width:120px; height:120px; position:fixed; top:50%; margin-top:-60px; left:50%; 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Max mem: 52.00 Mb. -->\n<pre>Flanders 72 (Hafenklang, Hamburg, 19.05.2017) (c) gehkacken.de)<\/pre>\n<p>For a 3 piece they had it all there was needed: Smile, speed and precision. Plus stage personas and some entertainment of the audience (&#8220;<em>Danke ihr Penner<\/em>&#8221; sure is a custom greeting in Germany) &#8211; all in all a great package driven by a great sound. The main reason for everybody thinking &#8220;&#8230;&nbsp;<em>that&#8217;s Green Day style<\/em>&#8221; sure are the vocals of Paulinho:<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 630px;\" class=\"wp-video\"><video class=\"wp-video-shortcode\" id=\"video-7448-1\" width=\"630\" height=\"360\" preload=\"metadata\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"video\/mp4\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Flanders-72-Hafenklang-Hamburg-19.05.2017.mp4?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Flanders-72-Hafenklang-Hamburg-19.05.2017.mp4\">http:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Flanders-72-Hafenklang-Hamburg-19.05.2017.mp4<\/a><\/video><\/div>\n<p>And i&#8217;d bet they are huge down there in South-America! Not for a reason most of Brasil and Argentina are Ramones territory, already back in 1996 when i saw Ramones in Buenos Aires that was a stunning thing to see. I&#8217;d love to see them though with a proper long set on a slightly bigger stage and getting say 450 people going &#8211; that would have been the right thing for them. I do hope though they come back!<\/p>\n<p>Next and with only little changeover the Hamburg Ram\u00f6nes took the stage. I saw them a couple of years downstairs at the Hafenklang and i was not too impressed. The good think though is that they graduated from being a cover band to playing also own songs. And they have by now 5 records out, though i guess not sold record quantities.<\/p>\n<p>How do they sound? Like this:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-8271\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/video_removed_frame.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/video_removed_frame.png 640w, https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/video_removed_frame-300x169.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Frank &#8211; i did struggle with them, specifically when they played Ramones songs: To much mid tempo, to bad drumming and i just did not get along with the vocal style of the singer. The art of covering is a tough one, you need not only play the chords in the correct sequence you also need to hit the groove and the intend &#8211; and them Hamburg Ram\u00f6nes rarely hit it right for me (and my two fellow observers, one of them a professional cover musican).<\/p>\n \n<!-- Start container 2 --><div id=\"wppa-modal-container-2\" class=\"wppa-modal-container\" style=\"position:relative;z-index:100000;\" data-wppa=\"yes\"><\/div><div id=\"wppa-container-wrapper-2\" class=\"alignnone wppa-container-wrapper \" style=\"width:100%;clear:both;padding:0;position:relative;\"><div id=\"wppa-container-2\" style=\"width:100%;\" class=\"wppa-container wppa-container-2 wppa-rev-9110011 wppa-prevrev-9109005 wppa-theme-9.1.10.011 wppa-api-9.1.10.011\"><svg id=\"wppa-ajax-spin-2\" class=\"wppa-ajax-spin uil-default\" width=\"120px\" height=\"120px\" viewBox=\"0 0 100 100\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid\" stroke=\"\" style=\"width:120px; height:120px; position:fixed; top:50%; 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Max mem: 52.00 Mb. -->\n<pre>Hamburg Ram\u00f6nes (Hafenklang, Hamburg, 19.05.2017) (c) gehkacken.de)<\/pre>\n<p>The more they played though the better they sounded and i have to admit that a couple of their own songs had some groove and the vocals did fit &#8211; but it was one out of 10 if i dare to judge (and yes, i am a hard judge).<\/p>\n<p>The audience (friends&#8217;n&#8217;family?) though liked it and ensured a couple of encores. The final encore was sure a hats off to the mighty Ramones and Paulinho of Flanders 72 joined to sing the bubblegum ode:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-8271\" src=\"http:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/video_removed_frame.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/video_removed_frame.png 640w, https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/video_removed_frame-300x169.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>A strange evening, with heavy rain and thunderstorm outside, and an evening with a clear winner: Flanders 72 played &#8220;Green Day style&#8221; but in their own fashion and with both heart and quality. The Hamburg Ram\u00f6nes did not score for me, though i bet they have their heart in it (i saw a Johnny Ramone signature Mosrite on stage).<\/p>\n<p>Never mind, it was a pretty Friday and i was home all wet (but not too late). And as always mu-sick is enjoyed best live!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It would have been Joey Ramones 66th Birthday this year and the Hamburg Ram\u00f6nes do have a habit of throwing a birthday bash for Joey. This time round it included Flanders 72 from Brasil, a Ramonescore band leaning towards a Green Day sound rather, and it was set upstairs at the Hafenklang. For me it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":7449,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"aside","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[571],"tags":[925,473,926],"class_list":["post-7448","post","type-post","status-publish","format-aside","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-shows","tag-flanders-72","tag-hafenklang","tag-hamburg-ramoenes","post_format-post-format-aside"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7448","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7448"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7448\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/7449"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7448"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7448"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gehkacken.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7448"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}